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blitzar 1 hours ago [-]
Is the "mic drop" in the headline refering to how bad a deal this is for any startup that takes it?
shimman 8 hours ago [-]
What a great way to boost usage before an IPO. Definitely not scammy behavior!
1123581321 6 hours ago [-]
This sounds like how you get (or at least used to get) free AWS and Azure credits in your first x years as a startup or until you met revenue thresholds. You wouldn't get as many, but, you didn't have to give up a share of your company, to my knowledge.
Were there actually larger credit grants that would've been in exchange for equity, or, is OpenAI doing something novel?
KHRZ 10 hours ago [-]
If that's in API price, they may be better of with the subscription.
jonahbenton 12 hours ago [-]
The desperation is strong in this one
bravetraveler 8 hours ago [-]
The first taste is free, with a certain perspective on equity
kotaKat 19 minutes ago [-]
It's just a little casual grooming for customers to prey on, is all.
altairprime 8 hours ago [-]
Isn’t that a taxable gift, i.e. reportable income for the recipient, given the normal price charged for said tokens, though?
bravetraveler 7 hours ago [-]
I have no idea, just a BigCo engineer! Like someone getting hooked... taxes are a Later Problem. Anyway, the deal sounds less like a 'mic drop' and more like something else hitting the table.
Say 'Whizbang Model 6.8' comes out and tokens burn ~5x faster; what to do? Agree to give up less of the business or hope for proportional growth? The two million that had been agreed is no longer truly available/applicable. How this and the equity 'shake out' are probably relevant.
At risk of upsetting people, token value is arbitrary. What model, what time of day? What transaction? All to say: I have no idea what the Tax Man or our fake business would want :) Above my pay grade, thankfully!
HWR_14 7 hours ago [-]
No, because it's an investment for equity
bigbuppo 12 hours ago [-]
Hey, it's the thing I said was going to happen. Thank's for taking my suggestion, Sam.
mawadev 5 hours ago [-]
Very odd shadow economy that is in the making here.
interstice 1 hours ago [-]
Like sci-fi with currency based in kwh or life minutes but this time it's tokens
dTal 2 hours ago [-]
Reminder that "$2 million worth of OpenAI tokens" is meaningless and codes for "as much access to OpenAI infrastructure as Sam Altman feels like letting you have".
interstice 1 hours ago [-]
It could be at cost, but probably not
dude250711 12 hours ago [-]
Adding more layers to circular investments.
just_once 9 hours ago [-]
I thought code was free now
JacobAsmuth 8 hours ago [-]
Good ideas are expensive. Which is why he's blanket investing, to catch the winners.
just_once 36 minutes ago [-]
But why would they agree? Coding is free (or at least $200 a month)
moogly 12 hours ago [-]
Sounds like they have an oversupply of these tokens.
sellmesoap 9 hours ago [-]
It's only a token offer... I'll see myself out.
phendrenad2 10 hours ago [-]
Maybe they can borrow a few OpenAI engineers too?
seattle_spring 8 hours ago [-]
> i am excited to see what will happen with tokenmaxxing startups, both for how they work internally and the products they can build.
Am I the only one who gets a physical, visceral churning in their gut when they read/hear someone unironically using the term "tokenmaxxing"?
This is the absolute worst timeline, and I'm embarrassed to even be in an industry adjacent to these dorks.
cyanydeez 10 hours ago [-]
so weve officially reached the gambling sddiction portion of the LLM show. good luck FOMO
Were there actually larger credit grants that would've been in exchange for equity, or, is OpenAI doing something novel?
Say 'Whizbang Model 6.8' comes out and tokens burn ~5x faster; what to do? Agree to give up less of the business or hope for proportional growth? The two million that had been agreed is no longer truly available/applicable. How this and the equity 'shake out' are probably relevant.
At risk of upsetting people, token value is arbitrary. What model, what time of day? What transaction? All to say: I have no idea what the Tax Man or our fake business would want :) Above my pay grade, thankfully!
Am I the only one who gets a physical, visceral churning in their gut when they read/hear someone unironically using the term "tokenmaxxing"?
This is the absolute worst timeline, and I'm embarrassed to even be in an industry adjacent to these dorks.